tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1098361547792425611.post680868127262670153..comments2023-11-14T20:22:36.929-08:00Comments on Knowledge Is Necessity: Peter Kramer and Antidepressants - Oy!John McManamyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11857174305041382349noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1098361547792425611.post-65120155231515252582011-07-30T05:16:22.670-07:002011-07-30T05:16:22.670-07:00I've been out of the loop for a while on your ...I've been out of the loop for a while on your blog but reading back your posts has been a delight. It is quite funny how many people can pass off any 'fact' which at first seems to address the question but in fact addresses nothing. Politicians too are quite the splitting image of this (and how we trust them!?).Porcelainehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15471905815173049673noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1098361547792425611.post-11323185234437426192011-07-20T07:30:09.814-07:002011-07-20T07:30:09.814-07:00"Crotchedy, cranky and crabby, thats him if h..."Crotchedy, cranky and crabby, thats him if he forgets his pill."<br /><br />that was me too and it proved to be the beginning of withdrawal, not therapeutic interruption. <br /><br />some people have horrendous withdrawal syndromes from ADs...and yes, that does mean one is dependent on the drug.<br /><br />For some getting off ADs takes years if it can be done at all. That includes Janenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1098361547792425611.post-41420471727780439142011-07-14T11:13:26.900-07:002011-07-14T11:13:26.900-07:00Hey, Lizabeth. You nailed it. For psychiatry to be...Hey, Lizabeth. You nailed it. For psychiatry to be credible in the future (and it has largely lost its credibility in the present) it has to move the way you suggested. Namely, with reliable biological readings - brain scans, DNA, blood tests, EEG, you name it.<br /><br />I attended a session that addressed these points at the NAMI convention last week, and I will be blogging on it fairly soon.<John McManamyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11857174305041382349noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1098361547792425611.post-44673235882982431022011-07-14T10:38:52.303-07:002011-07-14T10:38:52.303-07:00Well, my household is split 50-50, after ten years...Well, my household is split 50-50, after ten years on assorted antidepressants my diagnosis was switched to BP2 and I went thru almost every AD then available before the dx switch. I am not sure if I was misdiagnosed in the first place or if the ADs had something to do with it.<br /><br />My husband, on the other hand is a textbook case for ADs, he was put on celexa for his second bout with Lizabethnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1098361547792425611.post-34491868327890571002011-07-14T00:45:05.151-07:002011-07-14T00:45:05.151-07:00Sorry, Anonymous. I don't have to prove brain ...Sorry, Anonymous. I don't have to prove brain science exists.John McManamyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11857174305041382349noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1098361547792425611.post-83919523405837569462011-07-13T23:39:26.283-07:002011-07-13T23:39:26.283-07:00I actually thought I may have found an informed bl...I actually thought I may have found an informed blogger, until I read your comment in reply to Willa. <br /><br /> "in the face of overwhelming brain science evidence."<br /><br />pray tell, what evidence is this, overwhelming or otherwise???Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1098361547792425611.post-49488823177888013572011-07-13T08:18:03.362-07:002011-07-13T08:18:03.362-07:00Hey, Willa. Kramer's dissembling is startling....Hey, Willa. Kramer's dissembling is startling. In effect, he is the reverse Thomas Szasz, who refused to even slightly modify his antipsychiatry rhetoric in the face of overwhelming brain science evidence.<br /><br />Kramer displays the same obdurate refusal to look at the facts. Instead, he is saying, in effect, "Antidepressants work because I say so." And he is hiding behind his John McManamyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11857174305041382349noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1098361547792425611.post-48074256617761416322011-07-13T07:57:45.652-07:002011-07-13T07:57:45.652-07:00The reason the results for the trials are so bad i...The reason the results for the trials are so bad is that the drug companies included people who weren't really that sick -- I wonder how that defense will play in the class action suit. And where is that class action suit so I can sign up?<br /><br />Meanwhile, NIMH did its own study, STAR*D, which I notice Kramer didn't mention. Still scientifically flawed and stacked in favor of the Willa Goodfellowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05816752444634576606noreply@blogger.com