tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1098361547792425611.post6105385971720134179..comments2023-11-14T20:22:36.929-08:00Comments on Knowledge Is Necessity: Collision Course: Whitaker vs TorreyJohn McManamyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11857174305041382349noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1098361547792425611.post-9437168629232019212012-05-24T15:29:40.638-07:002012-05-24T15:29:40.638-07:00Oh, one more thing, Willa. Yes, there will be more...Oh, one more thing, Willa. Yes, there will be more blog posts on this. This is the "conversation" we have all been waiting for.John McManamyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11857174305041382349noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1098361547792425611.post-4912424677803464212012-05-24T15:28:30.287-07:002012-05-24T15:28:30.287-07:00Hey, Willa. The truth is so elusive. When citing a...Hey, Willa. The truth is so elusive. When citing a study, I tend to say "suggests" rather than "proves". If I say "found," I restrict myself to the immediate facts of the study. Thus the WHO study did "find" that those in the study from certain third-world studies did have better outcomes. The study does "suggest" a number of things: social John McManamyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11857174305041382349noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1098361547792425611.post-37748732923232410492012-05-24T15:19:00.528-07:002012-05-24T15:19:00.528-07:00Thanks, Stan. :)Thanks, Stan. :)John McManamyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11857174305041382349noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1098361547792425611.post-80718956013804249242012-05-24T14:50:43.994-07:002012-05-24T14:50:43.994-07:00Thanks to Torrey and thanks to you, John, for foll...Thanks to Torrey and thanks to you, John, for following through with this. I know a lot less about schizophrenia than mood disorders, and so have avoided this fray. The apples to oranges issue clouds a lot of mental health research. Andreasen's longitudinal study might have provided data -- I don't know. Its loss is all the more lamentable.<br /><br />Do you have more coming?Willa Goodfellowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05816752444634576606noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1098361547792425611.post-23852860659400375332012-05-24T13:29:31.511-07:002012-05-24T13:29:31.511-07:00Thanks for being one of the most independent and i...Thanks for being one of the most independent and intelligent critic in the world of mental illness. You are one in the small minority who has no allegiance to pharma or the psychiatric establishment, as well as no allegiance to anti-pharma or anti-psychiatric groups.<br /><br />It is a refreshing stance. <br /><br />The only difficult part is your call to not take your own words at face value, Stanley Holmesnoreply@blogger.com